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The Leasehold Valuation Tribunal is only a compromise

Too weak to enforce any directions

a look at problems leaseholders face

Leaseholders site is having a makeover

Posted on August 30, 2009

Have been tied up doing other stuff for a while though it was time to freshen up the leaseholders advice site with a new cleaner theme. Within the past few weeks public documents have been discovered, revealing that in the case of one particular London Authority, the charges demanded from leaseholders were known to be excessive.

Because during a leasehold valuation tribunal hearing, the arms length management organisation, for the Local council, "by their own admission", stated that it was known that the actual costs for major works would "actually be less than the 75% interim demand" yet this London councils leasehold and incomes department were at the leasehold valuation tribunal defending themselves against excessive overcharging for major works and service charges, when they attempted to reclaim the full original 100% of the "estimate they knew would be more than 25% above the true accurate and final cost".

NOTE this is the important bit, a PRECEDENT has been set, when the management company "admitted during a statement to the leasehold tribunal the final cost they knew would be less than the 75% interim demand" and this applies across the Borough to all leaseholders approximately 9.000 nine thousand in total.

This is even more important to tackle head on with this london council and it's management company "why are they therefore still demanding with threats of legal action the full 100% over priced estimates from all other leaseholders in the borough who "DO NOT PUT UP A FIGHT" and why don't they publicise the "FACT"  that the original section 20 estimates are deliberately over estimated and that the 75% interim demands will more than adequately cove the final actual charges.

It will take me a while to compile lots of new stuff and highlight the relevant points so watch this space 

Full service for leaseholders will shortly be resumed

Posted on July 14, 2009

I have had other issues to deal with over past few weeks and the leaseholders site has not been updated, pleas note that there was a tribunal case that took place a few years ago, That has been lodged in the public records and there are serious issues there, that a particular local Authority in London should have applied to all of it's leaseholders. Because a precedent was set by the decisions of the LVT leasehold valuation tribunal. Unfortunately the Council in question has for several years now been charing it's leaseholders excessive admin, professional fees and preliminaries. 

They choose not to apply the tribunal decision to all it's leaseholders when all it's leasehold properties were charged using the same formula that was successfully challenged by TWO leaseholders a few years ago, whom did have to pay the same excessive charges the remaining NINE THOUSAND leaseholders were charged and are still being charged.

Watch this space i will reveal the case reference number IT IS A PULIC DOCUMENT therefore any confidentially questions do not come into play.

opps computer hiccups

Posted on June 18, 2009

Apologies for lack of activity in the leaseholders tribunal bureau website, the administrators computer broke down beyond economical repair, a replacement has been sourced and the site will be updated. 

The Audit commission has relaunched it's site

Posted on May 18, 2009

The audit commission has recently relaunched it's public service website, which leaseholders could make reference to in their fight and challenge against excessive and incorrect services charges. This means there will be a temporary period when seven links on this site will not work as expected. However leaseholders should not panic, the links will still take you to the audit commission,where you can navigate and search for yourself, to extract the information and forms you need to help successfully challenge the over charging of leaseholders service charges. 

page translation for www.ltb.viviti.com

Posted on May 13, 2009

There will be a text translator available on the site www.ltb.viviti.com alternative full name www.leaseholdandteantbureau.org.uk very soon now. This will allow united kingdom leaseholders tackling the excessive servce charges imposed upon them to have access to the contents of this site. There are literally thousands of leaseholders whose first language is not english. These people face extra difficulty in having not only to understand the English language but also to understand the legal language they must grasp in order to successfully challenge the very dodgy charges they are beeing asked to pay, already in many local authorities across the united kingdom it has clearly been shown that there are mistakes in the accounts of many millions of pounds £s. That is being clawed back from these leaseholders when they should in fact be getting massive refunds, it is therefore

UNREASONABLE TO HAVE TO PAY SERVICE CHARGE ACCOUNTS THAT ARE BASED UPON FIGURES THAT HAVE BEEEN INACCURATELY CALCULATED

Section 20 estimate not a bill it's just for information

Posted on April 27, 2009

There has been a very strange development in North london in the borough of Hackney ?. that needs to be bought to the attention of every leaseholder residing in Hackney. In the latest Addition of Hackney homes news letter the May 2009 edition, there appears at the bottom of page 10 a short public announcement, that states this "Section 20 estimates are not demands for payment they are for information only".

So why then has Hackney Homes the organisation charged with administering the boroughs leasehold department, been demanding payment of the S20 estimates under threat of legal action against it's leaseholders. How then did it happen that they have been demanding 75% of the SECTION 20 estimates issued to leaseholders in up front payments ?. When the section 20 estimates it's leaseholders received are not a demand for payment.

I will be uploading some of these demands for instant payment of the section 20 estimates, that are not demands for payment from leaseholders, the demands were sent with threat of forfeiture. Why don't Hackney leasehold department send out a letter to all it's leaseholders to put their minds at rest.

leaseholders knew out of court settlement was offered

Posted on April 2, 2009

Prior to the eventual negotiated outcome of a tribunal case against a north London borough, there was nothing to prevent me from openly discussing the progress of the trial with my neighbours and other affected leaseholderss, all who knew there was to be a tribunal hearing upon a certain date.

However after the events that took place on the day of the hearing, there is now never to be an official verdict for you all to see as a public document.

But enough leaseholders knew right up to the final day of the hearing, that there had been a reduced "final cost" submitted to the tribunal and the leaseholders of 50% less than a previous estimate that still contained errors it was obviously a FLAWED estimate produced by a flawed computer system. Something that is still being questioned by others that have received the same junk garbage figures from the same managing agents. Also the Audit commission report into this Council, DULY NOTED the wrong input of leaseholder major works and annual service charges into a system that was PRONE TO ERROR with unnecessary input that should be linked and automated. instead of operators having to manually input the same data from one system to another, causing too many mistakes.

The affected leaseholders also knew that on the evening before the day of what was to be a final hearing there was an approach from their barrister to our barrister to avoid them attending court. The other affected leaseholders also knew on the evening prior to and also on the morning of the hearing, before it was known there was to be no official public document decision. That the council withdrew their claim to recover their costs, and both sides were going to reach agreement on a figure. The figure agreed was the same figure we told other leaseholders it would eventually be, because there was at this stage only one compromise split down the middle figure that could be reached.

They are replacing the very good computer system (that's what they kept saying) that is not very old, with a new system costing millions to improve things (that didn't need improving according to their letters of response, the ones that did not end up in the trial bundles as evidence)

This particular council and it's managing agents are still unaware for the time being at least, that over the course of the long tribunal case. There were other overcharged leaseholders and their legal representatives, being kept up to date with the ongoing progress of the ever decreasing figures, that they were reluctantly forced to acknowledge were wrong.

There are at least four more separate tribunal applications from others in the same locality with excessive charges being aggressively pursued by the managing agents against the other leaseholders, using the same erroneous "rubbish in rubbish out, computer generated estimates"

 

there is hope if leaseholders stand firm

Posted on March 31, 2009

I just received some heart warming news from another leaseholder, a London council has apparently agreed to withdraw the costs of estate works from leaseholders "major works bills", and only charge for work to "THE BLOCK". www.ltb.viviti.com is having some successes there are other leaseholders that have contacted me and they now say that the councils are more conciliatory than before, when they were previously insistent that the estimates were correct. If they finally get the message that "leaseholders are not trying to avoid service charges, they are just not happy about being ripped off".  

Then maybe one day there will be peace between the two sides.

HERE IS THE NEWS I AM REFERRING TO happy news for a few more leaseholders at last.

Pen Wednesday 25 February 2009 5.57pm
I could do with some help with regard to Southwark Council major works charges. We own a flat in St Lawrence House that is part of St Saviours Estate. When we purchased the flat we were told of impending external repairs to St Lawrence House.We were made aware that we would have to pay towards these costs. We weren't concerned about this as St Lawrence House is in pretty good nick and the windows and entrance key doors had already been installed. Now we are being told that we are liable for repairs on the whole of the Estate. And the repairs have gone from being minor to major repairs that are both internal and external. Does anyone have any experience in fighting for only paying the costs on your building and not the whole estate?
john Wednesday 25 February 2009 7.02pm
PEN 
you need to look at your lease or get someone to look at it for you. 
the lease will say if you have to pay for any estate works or not and what proportion if any. i have experience of fighting a local authority but i can't discuss the case. only give general guidelines 
www.ltb.viviti.com
 Pen Tuesday 31 March 2009 3.45pm
Thank you for your help John. The council have agreed now that we only have to pay for works to our building - phew!

ltb.viviti.com

Posted on March 31, 2009

That's it i was right about my guess that www.viviti.com would go public and out of beta on the 31st March 2009, Seemed kinda obvious really. That means this web site is now public and will continue to deal with the trials and tribulations of leaseholders in England, challenging highly dubious service charges, and the legal implications, to them.

www.ltb.viviti.com now has a visual site map

Posted on March 24, 2009

www.ltb.viviti.com now has a visual site map in the form of a graphical user interface that visitors and leaseholders etc, can instantly see what links are associated with each page of the leaseholders web site. Simply hover over the link buttons at the bottom of the visual site map graphic and a text box will appear with a brief description of the page the link will take leaseholders too. From there you will see another visual representation of the links on that particular page. Repeat the process again here to see all links on that page, that will take you to other related leaseholder sites or additional pages on www.leaseholdandtenantbureau.org.uk or use the short name above www.ltb.viviti.com for the home page. To navigate to the visual site map go directly to www.ltb.viviti.com/links

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